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THE RUSSIAN FRONT

Arab Autumn may turn into

a nuclear Winter

THE MINISTRY OF Excerpt from the transcript of the interview of the
FOREIGN AFFAIRS Minister of Foreign Affairs of Russia S. Lavrov in
OF THE RUSSIAN the "Charlie Rose Show" September 25, 2012
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S. Lavrov Nuclear winter -
…..CHARLIE ROSE: I hear you and you made that very clear and make that devastation of a

case from your own perspective. When you sat down with me, and we've nuclear attack
known each other for a long time, you said that this has become much more

than Syria. What did you mean?

SERGEY LAVROV: Well it means that –

CHARLIE ROSE: I heard something like - I'm not sure, «a clash of civilizations».

SERGEY LAVROV: To some extent yes. And also to some extent what the world order is going to be. Wheth-

er we are going to respect the United Nations Charter or it would be a free for all. When people say that it is

unacceptable that Russia and China use the veto power and that let's bypass the United Nations, the Security

Council is in a stalemate, it's unbearable.

Let me remind you that the veto is part of the United Nations Charter, it's part of the international law em-

bodied in its most important instrument. And the veto right for the permanent members of the Security

Council was the proposal of the United States of America, in San Francisco conference. And the Americans

refused to create United Nations organizations without this provision. So veto is part of international law.

The founding fathers of the United Nations in their wisdom - agreed that unless the five permanent members

see eye to eye, the decisions would not be workable …………………

CHARLIE ROSE: Do you have fears about the Arab Spring?

SERGEY LAVROV: Well, I think we are now in the Arab Autumn.

CHARLIE ROSE: Do you have any theories about the Arab autumn and where you think it's going?

SERGEY LAVROV: Well, I hope it's not going to the nuclear winter.

CHARLIE ROSE: What would lead it to the nuclear winter, Iran getting a nuclear weapon which is not an Arab
country? What would lead to the nuclear winter? SERGEY LAVROV: Well, this was a figure of
speech, of course.
CHARLIE ROSE: Ok.
SERGEY LAVROV: But you –

CHARLIE ROSE: Nuclear winter - devastation of a nuclear attack.

SERGEY LAVROV: You take it very seriously that more and more countries are thinking of
buying security guarantees by way of going nuclear. It's a very dangerous thing. And threats, isolations, poli-

cies they only fuel these concerns. And we have really to think about the overall security land-

scape, not only in the Middle East, in many other parts of the world. And when this

most important global issues which will, you know, have consequences for many of us, are becoming

hostages to one or another political campaign, it's really very sad. Very sad indeed.

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